Size 13+ Foot? Can you heel-toe?

"rhorizon" (rhorizon) 10/22/2014 at 09:26 • Filed to: None

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Serious questions from this morning's commute: can you heel-toe with a giant foot? I wear size 13-14 US and can't seem to get anywhere close to even being able to practice without being barefoot.

I can't be the only one, right? Anyone figure it out? What do you drive? What helped?

mcseanerson > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 09:29

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I can't but I've heard of others that can. size 15 here.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 09:32

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I would think it depends very heavily on the car. Even at a 12, I don't have a lot of foot room in many cars, particularly JDM.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 09:32

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I fluctuate between a 12 and a 13 depending on the brand and have never had a problem, but I guess it depends on your angle. Most heel-toe action isn't really heel-toe. The way I usually do it is I press the brakes with the left side ball of my foot, and use the right side leading down to the heel to blip the throttle. The foot is pointed at 10 or 11 o'clock this way, not 9.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 09:44

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When you have feet as large as we do, it's not so much heel-toe as it is left side-right side. You need to roll your right edge of your foot onto the throttle. If your shoes are narrow you still might need a little heel, but I find that style works best.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 09:55

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Size 10 here. I think a larger foot would actually make it easier.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 10:07

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Depending on the shoe I'm between an 11-12 EEE. With my wife's 05 bug it was more of a "right and left ball of the foot," than a heel toe

marvthegrate > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 10:08

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I have 16s and I haven't really been able to master it. The side to side action might work a little better, but I haven't tried it.

Nerd-Vol > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 10:17

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I wear 13s. I can heel toe. The big help is knowing that you can't do the traditional style. You have to use the inside of your foot for the brake and the outside for the gas. I drive a ms3 and a miata. I modified the miata with a very wide gas pedal.

The closer the brake and the gas, the easier it is. The MS3 has a very close set up. The Miata and S2000 are rather far. That's why I went with the wide gas pedal.

Big Bubba Ray > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 10:44

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For me it depends on the car. I wear a 13 and its hard to heel toe in my Outback because its got a cramped foot foot well (for lack of better term). In my sister's forester its really easy, surprisingly. My Datsun is pretty easy too because the pedals are far apart.

rhorizon > Nerd-Vol 10/22/2014 at 10:52

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I'll just have to try harder/practice more then - I've got a Gen 2 MS3

Nerd-Vol > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 10:58

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What's happening when you try to heel-toe? Can you not get to both pedals at the same time?

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 11:12

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I've done it with size 13 steel-toe work boots on, although not always very well. As others have said, it's more a left-side/right-side rolling motion than an actual heel-toe. I'd say I use mostly the big toe and ball of foot on the brake pedal and kinda the right side rear (away from toes) ball area on the gas.

rhorizon > Nerd-Vol 10/22/2014 at 11:34

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I can get to both pedals, but I've always tried an ankle breaking 9pm slant to do it - my work shoes should be wide enough to peg at 11-12 and shift sides, but I hadn't really tried that as much.

Nerd-Vol > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 11:46

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I'll add some pictures when I get home this evening.

Autophile412 - what's the world got in store? > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/22/2014 at 11:48

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I concur with this solution to the heel-toe problems of larger footed individuals like us. I took many performance driving classes years ago and throughout all of them when it came time to put the theory into practice I have always found that the best approach is the one described above.

I have long and wide feet and the width is perfect for putting into practice the left side - right side solution to the heel-toe equation.

BoulderZ > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 10/22/2014 at 11:55

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I wear size 9.5 US, and I've always done the left side / right side. I have much finer control with the side-to-side tilt than I do with the twist-the-foot-front-back approach. Might just be me, or my cars, but I know side/side is how many others at my local track do it as well.

nermal > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 12:03

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I'll echo others that you need to do left-side / right-side instead of heel / toe.

You car's pedal layout makes a difference as well. My GTI is super-easy to do, since the brake and gas pedal are close together, and the gas pedal is floor hinged as well. My Jeep is impossible.

Another bit of advice is to try doing the move while stationary. Instead of trying to do everything at once while driving, sit in a parking lot or whatever, and practice revving the engine while holding the brake. This will help you get a feel for how your car revs, and how much gas you need to give it to get to a certain rpm point. Even if you've got a good idea on this blipping the gas individually, it will feel completely different while on the brake.

davedave1111 > rhorizon 10/22/2014 at 21:24

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Whether you can heel-and-toe at all depends on the placement of the pedals. I've driven cars where it was simply impossible, however flexible your ankle. Other than that, I can't see foot-size making a lot of difference.

wontacceptthis > Nerd-Vol 10/26/2014 at 10:42

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Can I get an explanation on how you made or where you bought the pedal cover, and how it is attached? I also have a Miata and size 13 feet.

Nerd-Vol > wontacceptthis 10/27/2014 at 09:18

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http://www.rennenmetal.com/proddetail.asp…